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MorganGrayson
03-15-2006, 02:26 PM
...for indeed, today it is, the day so full of foreboding...or is it? :)

The Ides of March
Just one of a dozen Ides that occur every month of the year

The soothsayer's warning to Julius Caesar, "Beware the Ides of March," has forever imbued that date with a sense of foreboding. But in Roman times the expression "Ides of March" did not necessarily evoke a dark mood—it was simply the standard way of saying "March 15." Surely such a fanciful expression must signify something more than merely another day of the year? Not so. Even in Shakespeare's time, sixteen centuries later, audiences attending his play Julius Caesar wouldn't have blinked twice upon hearing the date called the Ides.

The term Ides comes from the earliest Roman calendar, which is said to have been devised by Romulus, the mythical founder of Rome. Whether it was Romulus or not, the inventor of this calendar had a penchant for complexity. The Roman calendar organized its months around three days, each of which served as a reference point for counting the other days:


Kalends (1st day of the month)
Nones (the 7th day in March, May, July, and October; the 5th in the other months)
Ides (the 15th day in March, May, July, and October; the 13th in the other months)
The remaining, unnamed days of the month were identified by counting backwards from the Kalends, Nones, or the Ides. For example, March 3 would be V Nones—5 days before the Nones (the Roman method of counting days was inclusive; in other words, the Nones would be counted as one of the 5 days).

Days in March

March 1: Kalends; March 2: VI Nones; March 3: V Nones; March 4: IV Nones; March 5: III Nones; March 6: Pridie Nones (Latin for "on the day before"); March 7: Nones; March 15: Ides

Used in the first Roman calendar as well as in the Julian calendar (established by Julius Caesar in 45 B.C.E.) the confusing system of Kalends, Nones, and Ides continued to be used to varying degrees throughout the Middle Ages and into the Renaissance.

So, the Ides of March is just one of a dozen Ides that occur every month of the year. Kalends, the word from which calendar is derived, is another exotic-sounding term with a mundane meaning. Kalendrium means account book in Latin: Kalend, the first of the month, was in Roman times as it is now, the date on which bills are due.

Since ol' Julius made it famous by taking several shivs, the least I can do is post his image in this thread. Well, actually, the "least" I could have done would have been to ignore this day entirely, but I didn't.

Evil Chris
03-15-2006, 02:27 PM
I'm your vehicle baby!

MorganGrayson
03-15-2006, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Evil Chris
I'm your vehicle baby!

OK...that reference has caused a small electric tingle deep in the recesses of the filing cabinet I call a brain...but I can't dredge anything up. Could you elaborate, please? The tingle is pleasant at the moment, but I can see how it could become downright annoying in an hour or two.... http://www.porn-sex-adult-xxx.com/smilies/wavey.gif

Dravyk
03-15-2006, 08:29 PM
Ides will have nones of this kalendar talk! ::-|

Evil Chris
03-16-2006, 04:11 PM
Morgan, you never heard of the Ides of March?

Chicago's Ides of March burst onto the national scene in 1970 with the million-selling single "Vehicle," a tune that bore more than a passing resemblance to the then mega-selling Blood, Sweat & Tears. But the band's pedigree went back further than BS&T's, and with a much different origin. Formed in the mid-1960s in the Windy City, founding member Jim Peterik put the original Ides together as a teen band, strong on original material and British pop harmonies.

taken from www.allmusic.com

MorganGrayson
03-16-2006, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Dravyk
Ides will have nones of this kalendar talk! ::-|

OH, FULL MARKS! http://www.porn-sex-adult-xxx.com/smilies/clapping.gif

Of course, Kirby would expect nothing less! http://www.porn-sex-adult-xxx.com/smilies/carrotdancer.gif

Chris...*groan*...that's the tingle. I could hear it deep in the...well, in the deep, dark cavernous thing I store stuff. Thank you! (Clever as hell, really!) :)


I love smart guys! http://www.porn-sex-adult-xxx.com/smilies/speedbanana.gif

Evil Chris
03-16-2006, 09:35 PM
Oh I am the KING of music trivia! :)

war_ner
03-17-2006, 12:34 AM
Thanks for that bit of history Morgan... :D

Dravyk
03-17-2006, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by MorganGrayson
[B]OH, FULL MARKS! http://www.porn-sex-adult-xxx.com/smilies/clapping.gif That was all for you, ya know. :)

MorganGrayson
03-17-2006, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Dravyk
That was all for you, ya know. :)

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Yes, I actually did know that. You be da man! The "Go To Guy of Witty Banter"!!! :D