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Funbrunette

06-12-2007, 09:01 PM

Do you?

As above, so below. As within, so without

Rochard

06-13-2007, 02:03 AM

I know a few secrets.....

Casa Nova

06-13-2007, 04:00 AM

the secret is the stupidest book in the world!!!

It's all obvious stupid shit.. it honestly makes me so upset knowing people pay for common sense advice.

Funbrunette

06-13-2007, 07:23 AM

the secret is the stupidest book in the world!!!

It's all obvious stupid shit.. it honestly makes me so upset knowing people pay for common sense advice.

Well I must be an idiot because this book was a wondeful tool for me, must be nice to be so young and know it all! :huh:

Terrence

06-13-2007, 07:36 AM

the secret is the stupidest book in the world!!!

It's all obvious stupid shit.. it honestly makes me so upset knowing people pay for common sense advice.

Excellent book perhaps you should read it Casa Nova seems you could learn from it

Terrence

Slippery

06-13-2007, 08:06 AM

I've heard so much about it. Thanks for recomending it FB I will be getting my hands on it. :)

TheLegacy

06-13-2007, 10:25 AM

The Seven Ancient Principles of Hermes

Evil Chris

06-13-2007, 10:37 AM

Inspiraton comes in many forms.
What works for some, may seem silly to others.

I'm going to read it after FB is done with it. :)

Funbrunette

06-13-2007, 10:37 AM

The Seven Ancient Principles of Hermes

As always babe you know your shit! :xthumbs:

THE SEVEN HERMETIC PRINCIPLES

The principles of truth are seven; the seven hermetic principals, upon which the entire Hermetic philosophy is based, are as follows:

1.The Principle of mentalism: "The All is mind, the Universe is mental."

2.The Principle of correspondence: "As above, so below; as below, so above."

3.The principle of vibration: "Nothing rests, everything moves; everything vibrates."

4.The principal of polarity: "Everything is dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are all the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled."

5.The principle of rhythm: "Everything flows, out and in; everything has its tides; all things rise and fall; the pendulum swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates."

6.The principle of cause and effect: "Every cause has its effect; every effect has its cause; everything happens according to law; chance is but a name for law not recognized; there are many planes of causation, but nothing escapes the law."

7.The principal of Gender: "Gender is in everything; everything has its masculine and feminine principle; Gender manifests on all planes."

student4ever

06-13-2007, 12:51 PM

Just read it a couple months ago and started noticing changes before I was done reading. For anybody who has not read it, I highly recommend it.

Casa Nova (http://www.xnations.com/member.php?u=4348) - honestly, have you read it?

Panky

06-13-2007, 01:00 PM

Sounds interesting. Looks like I now have a reason to go shopping. :)

Quagmire

06-13-2007, 01:03 PM

I am going to smoke some pot and read the 7 principles. If that doesn't help, at least I'll be high. ;)

Casa Nova

06-13-2007, 03:36 PM

Well I must be an idiot because this book was a wondeful tool for me, must be nice to be so young and know it all! :huh:

You are not an idiot, I never stated anyone was one for reading it. By all means alot of people can take some good things from it. I just find for me it was alot of principles and rules that you naturally learn through life, or were told by your teachers in grade school. "Think positive, be positive" "if you think negatively and expect failure you will get it" All things that were told to me by teachers or I read in the required reading throughout school. The book just expands on it, but I dont find that it neccesarilly speaks to anything that is groundbreaking.

I never stated I knew everything either, and I'm truely sorry if something i said offended you enough to state that about me, but I was merely stating my opinion of the book, not the people who read it, heck I read it too. I just came away from it with a different opinion then most. I was expecting so much more from the book & felt like i was let down reading things that I had already thought up myself (not to the same degree of course but same principles).

I found I came away with more life lessons in books such as:
The 48 Laws of Power
The Art of Seduction
The Prince
The game
Huananzi
Book of Five Rings

Again sorry if I offended you by my earlier post, it wasn't my intention.

Funbrunette

06-13-2007, 04:09 PM

You are not an idiot, I never stated anyone was one for reading it. By all means alot of people can take some good things from it. I just find for me it was alot of principles and rules that you naturally learn through life, or were told by your teachers in grade school. "Think positive, be positive" "if you think negatively and expect failure you will get it" All things that were told to me by teachers or I read in the required reading throughout school. The book just expands on it, but I dont find that it neccesarilly speaks to anything that is groundbreaking.

I never stated I knew everything either, and I'm truely sorry if something i said offended you enough to state that about me, but I was merely stating my opinion of the book, not the people who read it, heck I read it too. I just came away from it with a different opinion then most. I was expecting so much more from the book & felt like i was let down reading things that I had already thought up myself (not to the same degree of course but same principles).

I found I came away with more life lessons in books such as:
The 48 Laws of Power
The Art of Seduction
The Prince
The game
Huananzi
Book of Five Rings

Again sorry if I offended you by my earlier post, it wasn't my intention.

I was not offended (remember I'm reading the secret) That's a negative feeling. I was amused on how fast you were to "judge" this book...Did it really not help you? I respect your opinion Casa Nova. I'm happy you're part of Xnations I always enjoy reading your posts! :) Oh and you're still going to work that kissing booth in Montreal right?

Casa Nova

06-13-2007, 04:52 PM

I was not offended (remember I'm reading the secret) That's a negative feeling. I was amused on how fast you were to "judge" this book...Did it really not help you? I respect your opinion Casa Nova. I'm happy you're part of Xnations I always enjoy reading your posts! :) Oh and you're still going to work that kissing booth in Montreal right?

Sure it cemented some ideas in my head, but they were already there. I guess it was some help, just not what I expected.

& I certainly am gonna be working that kissing booth Just for YOU:heart: :laughout: *Muah*!!

Mister E

06-14-2007, 10:35 AM

:goldfish: Blessed be X nations

Magnus3x

06-14-2007, 02:49 PM

It was a very interesting read and I have used such principles in my daily life for some time now (prior to the book) and they sure have made amazing differences.
The laws of attraction and the power of positive thinking can go a long way.

I have learned not push negative views on how people chose to pursue their life's happiness, whether it be another persons beliefs religiously or otherwise.

The only negative I have to say about all this Secret hype is it has been misinterpreted as a "Think and all things material in life will come my way" no, this is a tool to help you achieve those things through opportunity and clear thinking. Tuning in to what life throws at you and turning it into something positive.

Some people in our current society are ungrateful for what they have, too busy trying to keep up with the jones' with material possessions and are unwilling to serve their fellow man, to them, these philosophies will be missinterpreted.

student4ever

06-15-2007, 03:28 PM

Some people in our current society are ungrateful for what they have, too busy trying to keep up with the jones' with material possessions and are unwilling to serve their fellow man, to them, these philosophies will be missinterpreted.
very well put!

Evil Chris

06-15-2007, 04:07 PM

:goldfish: Blessed be X nationsOhh a Jesus fish! haha

Relentless

06-15-2007, 04:42 PM

FB,

I assume you know that the secret is a book intended to make Buddhist principles more "current" so that the reading public can integrate them into their own lives more easily.

If you really found it helpful I urge you to look up an author named Thich Nhat Hanh. He is a Nobel Peace Prize nominee and a Buddhist monk from Viet Nam. His books are truly life changing. His words are so simple and truthful that they are almost undeniable.

Book List (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/103-3491086-9777424?%5Fencoding=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=Thich%20Nhat%20Hanh)

His book "No Death No Fear" remains the greatest written work on the nature of dying that I have ever seen.
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Vid Vicious

06-15-2007, 05:21 PM

I've known about it for a long time .. what ever happened to keeping a secret a secret ??

Vid Vicious

06-15-2007, 05:28 PM

the secret is the stupidest book in the world!!!

It's all obvious stupid shit.. it honestly makes me so upset knowing people pay for common sense advice.

So glad that you caught on early .. what a scam .. LOL

Actually dude for most people these things need to be pointed out .. Keeping a clear image of your goals isn't easy for most. what with Life being so hectic and all ... Also visualising your destiny or Where you want to be isn't all it's cracked up to be .. Most folks find it easier to focus on the things they don't want rather then the things they do want ... All in all I think it's great that they've re written it for the 21 century.

Should anyone be interested I also have the video (it's very well done. a la A&E docu. style)

Lastly if you have yet to check out "Clendestine Prophecy" Please do .. it's an excellent book, really helps clear your head and see things from a different angle ... ( when ever I feel lost or find that i've lost focus of my goals. I Pull out this book. Damn I must of read it at least a dozen times since it was given to me by a good dear friend) I'm of the school that everything happens for a reason, good or bad .. in the end, no matter how hard you tryed to change things destiny will take over .. the only tool you have is to control it's outcome.

Have a great weekend and enjoy the wonderful gift god gave you ...

PORN

student4ever

06-15-2007, 05:53 PM

Lastly if you have yet to check out "Clendestine Prophecy" Please do .. it's an excellent bookis that the actual title? checked amazon to take a look and got nothing... tried 'Clandestine Prophecy' and got no exact matches, but a bunch of hits related to 'Huguenot Prophecy'...

Funbrunette

06-15-2007, 10:28 PM

thruma

06-19-2007, 12:05 AM

I haven't read the book but I saw the video. I've already read a lot of this genre of material so I knew most of what the secret had to offer yet it was still very helpful to see the video. Anything that puts us back to a positive mind-frame is good as far as I'm concerned.

Vid Vicious

06-19-2007, 02:05 PM

is that the actual title? checked amazon to take a look and got nothing... tried 'Clandestine Prophecy' and got no exact matches, but a bunch of hits related to 'Huguenot Prophecy'...

I'm pretty sure that's it . I'll check at home tonight

THere has been one or two sequels to the book, so that might be what you found ...
Update coming ...

thruma

06-20-2007, 04:05 AM

I'm pretty sure that's it . I'll check at home tonight

THere has been one or two sequels to the book, so that might be what you found ...
Update coming ...

Is it Celestine Prophecy?

Vid Vicious

06-20-2007, 03:42 PM

Is it Celestine Prophecy?

YES Celestine ! Damn

shit I wrote it in french lol

student4ever

06-20-2007, 03:59 PM

YES Celestine ! Damn

shit I wrote it in french lol
excellent - I'll check it out :)

thruma

06-21-2007, 05:57 AM

lol

cool glad I could help

Quagmire

06-26-2007, 10:42 AM

Well here is an article about 'The Secret'

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/books/06/25/books.thesecret.ap/index.html

DonMike

06-26-2007, 03:16 PM

I was talking about this with a friend last night. I'm amazed that when something comes along that helps people there are a lot of people who take great joy in trying to discount it. I remember when I used to take Echinacea for my colds and my mom would always poo poo it in favor of more conventional medicine. Now, did it really help me or was it just positive thinking? Who knows. We all have the power to heal ourselves to some extent, it's just a matter of harnessing that power and being able to use it. So if you pray, take herbal medicine or drugs, to some extent you are believing that this thing will help and therefore it will. So one day my mom heard a report that some scientific study reported that Echinacea doesn't really help the common cold. She was overjoyed at being able to prove me wrong. Now I take whatever's handy. Did she help me by showing me the err of my ways? No, she just disappointed me. So, recently I've been reading The Secret. And yes, people have been poo pooing me up and down. I decided one day that I was ready to meet the love of my life, and even posted this on a message board somewhere. Within a week I met my current boyfriend and have never been happier with anyone in my life. Now, did the Universe realign itself so that we would meet? Did my positive energy attract this person to me from across the ether to find his way to me? No. But when I read his online profile I decided to to write him a message rather than think that someone so handsome could never be interested in me. When we met, I was happy to meet him and enjoyed the day as if it were any other beautiful day without a worry that he might not like me or trying to plan out the next ten years and would it work out and how bad would the break up be.

My positive attitude attracted his positive attitude. That is the whole "Secret". And no, Casa Nova, I was not taught this growing up. To be frank, I was taught that I had a place in the world and that I should never expect anything better. I was taught that I was as an abomination for being gay and that I was going to burn in hell just for being who I was. And I was taught that I would never amount to anything and that I should get some crummy job in the shitty little town I grew up in and ever chase my dreams.

Having said all that, some people need this book. And while it may seem like common sense I've heard of a lot of people taking the ideas of this book too literally and not using common sense when applying it. Living like you don't have money problems just means that you won't worry needlessly, and removing that stress from your life will make it easier to help bring more money into it, such as looking for a better job or finding constructive ways to make more money. This does not mean that by believing you will get more money that it will just fall into your lap. Believing that you will meet the man or woman of your dreams will not bring them to you, but it will make you more ready for when they happen to walk into your life or it will give you the confidence to seek them out. The Secret is not a guide to making things get handed to you, it's about how to stop whining about how crappy everything is and to start enjoying what you have, and feel motivated to go after the things you want.

It's like anything else. Take what you can from it and leave the rest. If it doesn't help you that does not mean it won't help someone else. And if it helps you, think about how it is helping you and why, and apply that to everything you do. It's like I say, the secret to happiness is simply to be happy.

DonMike

06-26-2007, 03:22 PM

Well here is an article about 'The Secret'

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/books/06/25/books.thesecret.ap/index.html

Perfect example. A woman read a book about how to get rich, she got the idea to spread this word by making a movie, a book, a bunch of other stuff, and then became rich. She simply said, "I can" and then did. I picture myself in a thinner, more muscular body. Do I do this while sitting on the couch eating Cheetos? Hell no. I do this on the treadmill at the gym. But I'll tell you what, my workouts are so much better now then when I would go and struggle thinking that none of it was doing any good because I wasn't seeing results in two weeks.

student4ever

06-26-2007, 03:55 PM

two excellent posts DonMike! :wow:

thanks for those :) people can call 'the secret' anything they like. they can believe that it's the universe moving things around for them or God or just their belief in themselves. It works out the same - they believe in something positive which opens them up to positive results.

The people that are quick to criticize and call it a money making scheme or pointing to it as something horrible because it's creating a 'material society' are the ones that have totally missed the point. Wealth is not necessarily about how much bling you've got or how much cash you've got in the bank. I consider myself to be one of the wealthiest people around simply because I'm happy with where my life is at. I'm not a material person because I believe that the secret has merit, I'm a happy person and have become happier since reading it.

DonMike

06-26-2007, 04:25 PM

The people that are quick to criticize and call it a money making scheme or pointing to it as something horrible because it's creating a 'material society' are the ones that have totally missed the point. Wealth is not necessarily about how much bling you've got or how much cash you've got in the bank. I consider myself to be one of the wealthiest people around simply because I'm happy with where my life is at. I'm not a material person because I believe that the secret has merit, I'm a happy person and have become happier since reading it.

AMEN!!! :worthy:

thruma

06-28-2007, 05:07 AM

Well I came to respond to the criticism as well but DonMike said it perfectly. I've always liked DonMike and thought very highly of him. Good posts!

I do have to share this one little anecdotal joke though.

This very spiritual guy got caught in a flood one day and the water was so high
that he had to sit up in a tree hoping the water would cease.

Before he knew it this other guy came along in a boat and offered him a seat.

He said "no thanks I'm waiting for god to help me. I know god won't let me down."

So this happened 2 more times with 2 more boats then the water became to high the poor guy drowned.

So he got to heaven and asked god why he didn't help him.

God says "I sent you three boats! what more did you want?"

The only criticism the secret deserves is the fact that it's not giving the complete picture.
Thinking positive is only one step. Taking action is another.

Like the Legacy pointed out the secret is only using one principle out of 7.
The 7 Hermetic Laws

DonMike

06-28-2007, 12:28 PM

Excellent post, thruma. And thank you for the compliment.

I haven't seen the movie but I've read the book. I don't know if it's spelled out or I just had the foresight to understand it better but I got the impression that the positive thinking helped inspire the action. I think sometimes people only hear what they want to. They see the line about the miracle weight loss pill melting away pounds but they don't see the part that says "with proper diet and exercise" then they wonder why they are still fat as they pop two pills and down it with a Coke and a whole carton of Ben & Jerrys.

Quagmire

06-28-2007, 04:14 PM

Perfect example. A woman read a book about how to get rich, she got the idea to spread this word by making a movie, a book, a bunch of other stuff, and then became rich. She simply said, "I can" and then did. I picture myself in a thinner, more muscular body. Do I do this while sitting on the couch eating Cheetos? Hell no. I do this on the treadmill at the gym. But I'll tell you what, my workouts are so much better now then when I would go and struggle thinking that none of it was doing any good because I wasn't seeing results in two weeks.

I hope you don't take my posting of the article as crapping all over the concept. I'm all for positive thinking. As long as people understand the limitations of what positive thinking can do (as you obviously do) there is no problem with it. The problem is the part of society that is a few rungs lower on the intelligence ladder. These people are taking it as gospel truth and being fleeced of their money.

Sort of like religion. If you stop and think about what they preach, they totally contradict themselves. I noticed this from going to Catholic schools. The teach you that God is love, but in the same breath they're muttering "but he sure hates them homos". How is God love if they're preaching that his word is hate?

Stephane76

06-28-2007, 04:45 PM

As always babe you know your shit! :xthumbs:

THE SEVEN HERMETIC PRINCIPLES

The principles of truth are seven; the seven hermetic principals, upon which the entire Hermetic philosophy is based, are as follows:

1.The Principle of mentalism: "The All is mind, the Universe is mental."

2.The Principle of correspondence: "As above, so below; as below, so above."

3.The principle of vibration: "Nothing rests, everything moves; everything vibrates."

4.The principal of polarity: "Everything is dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are all the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled."

5.The principle of rhythm: "Everything flows, out and in; everything has its tides; all things rise and fall; the pendulum swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates."

6.The principle of cause and effect: "Every cause has its effect; every effect has its cause; everything happens according to law; chance is but a name for law not recognized; there are many planes of causation, but nothing escapes the law."

7.The principal of Gender: "Gender is in everything; everything has its masculine and feminine principle; Gender manifests on all planes."

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