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Vid Vicious
10-21-2002, 01:19 AM
I got a bet going ...

I got into a conversation about using flash for splash pages. I like that look, especially for webmaster resource site ... well wouldn't you know the person I had this convo with things that flash isn't good cus of dial up surfers .. My point is that a fairly good webmaster is on dsl/cable or higher .. Hense the poll ...

what are you guys/gals using ???
Vid Vicious
10-21-2002, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by Vid Vicious
I got a bet going ...

I got into a conversation about using flash for splash pages. I like that look, especially for webmaster resource sites ... well wouldn't you know it, the person I had this convo with thinks that flash isn't good cus of dial up surfers .. My point is that a fairly good webmaster is on dsl/cable or higher .. he thinks 20% of webmasters are on Dial up, I say Less then 15%, and that they shouldn't even be a consideration ... Hense the poll ...

what are you guys/gals using ???
should Dial up Webmasters be a consederation??
Dugmor
10-21-2002, 01:36 AM
I am on high speed ATT ADSL. What did you bet ? A lap dance at Filmores ?
Vid Vicious
10-21-2002, 01:37 AM
ROFLMAO
-=HUNGRYMAN=-
10-21-2002, 02:50 AM
I have no problems with "bricks of flash" being implemented into the design ... but I don't think that a page built solely in flash is a good idea ... it's hard to discuss it without everybody knowing the specific design that was being proposed ...

I like ADDING flash to the page ... but the page should not be ALL flash

examples of flash specific elements

http://www.techiemedia.com (one of our recent designs)

http://www.paysitedesign.com/clients/prbucks (another one)
Tafkap
10-21-2002, 05:09 AM
ASDL of course cause i'm an addicted Prince's stuff downloader as well...

:bonk:
JFK
10-21-2002, 08:26 AM
You have to take into consideration what the surfer is using! Not what we use ! After all they are the customers, and where would we be without them:badcomp:
Tafkap
10-21-2002, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by JFK
You have to take into consideration what the surfer is using! Not what we use ! After all they are the customers, and where would we be without them:badcomp:

Absolutely right JFK! as we do propose dialers as a billing solution, we do test our websites with dialers as well...

:bonk:
Tobbe
10-21-2002, 09:58 AM
am i the only Dead dick surfer here?
:bonk:
baddog
10-21-2002, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by JFK
You have to take into consideration what the surfer is using! Not what we use ! After all they are the customers, and where would we be without them:badcomp:

I believe he said this was for a webmaster resource site. However, be that as it may, we have a sponsor at ContentLotto that was using a Flash page for their main URL, and even though I am on cable modem, it took so damn long to load that the 15 seconds of the site ad would expire before the page finished loading.

I hate Flash for business, too impatient I guess.
JFK
10-21-2002, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by baddog


I believe he said this was for a webmaster resource site. However, be that as it may, we have a sponsor at ContentLotto that was using a Flash page for their main URL, and even though I am on cable modem, it took so damn long to load that the 15 seconds of the site ad would expire before the page finished loading.

I hate Flash for business, too impatient I guess.

He discussed a couple of things but said "especially for a webmaster resource site" So can I be 1/2 right ??:bonk:
luke
10-21-2002, 01:08 PM
I agree with Hungreyman, that if the whole page isn't flash, its ok. Like headers and stuff. Those are some good examples he put up there. I also, like the nice flash buttons/banners. They are small and can be a lot cooler than just a regular animated gif.
Evil Chris
10-21-2002, 01:20 PM
Cable is still very fast out here in the 'burbs.
luke
10-21-2002, 01:30 PM
I've got cable at home and it is pretty fast. Its fast than dsl in our area.
XXXMgmt
10-21-2002, 07:53 PM
Got cable out here and would never go back to dial up. The only other thing I would try is Wireless. It is supposedly faster then cable and dsl. I actually hope to start off with my first wireless interner service node sometime next year.:)
Bree
10-21-2002, 09:44 PM
I agree, a site that is fully Flash is awful.. a good example of bad is
http://www.citizen.com.hk/index.htm
The navigation sucks .. every page is "Loading..." and on the home page the navigation like rotates.. it's very artsy, but I think confusing for the average (L)user...

Moderation is the key to almost anything (except sex :dancer: )...

The advantage of Flash is that the file sizes are smaller b/c it uses vector graphics.. some peeps exploit that so you end up with sites that are Flash overload... like the Citizen's site.

JMHO :thanks:

oops forgot to say that you can't beat broadband if you do any online RPGs... :xthumbs:
Magnus3x
10-22-2002, 02:23 AM
I'm on Cable..never had a prob with it ever.

I agree with Hungry, Flash in spots is kewl, but for the most part, sites done in Flash completely in this biz is not needed. IMO
Nothing worse than waiting for shitty pre loaders to load shitty flash! And single words or a sentence zipping across the screen in parts is a waste of time.

Webmasters should know who their surfer demographic is, gamer sites and techie sites that cater to the 15-25 know that 75% or more of their target audience will have hi speed connections. The porn surfer demographic is not quite there yet.
Raya
10-22-2002, 02:52 AM
Wireless in the office, boat has dial up but it drops often which is why I am working more in my friends cool office with wireless. I bought the card and now I can work on my sites with cool people around me. Happy Day!
XXXMgmt
10-22-2002, 05:59 PM
I will be in a few weeks hooking up my cable connection to a wireless network to play with it. Considering offering setting up small wireless networks as an additional business service. Should be quite cool to do that. :D
mybear8u
10-23-2002, 12:37 AM
I have a cable hookup at home.
But at work I have a T1 connected to a windows server that I am currently using for my pc replacement.
I can definitely zip thru the pics at work(on my free time of course).
:rolleyes:
XXXMgmt
10-23-2002, 04:42 PM
Just what you need is to get caught zipping through those pics in your spare time even. Boy would that be something I would love to hear ya trying to explain!:D
mybear8u
10-23-2002, 06:02 PM
The cool thing is I work for a web hosting company. I can always say I am researching the site since we host adult sites.:D