[war_ner]

I think the key word here is the observers perceived perception.

Example, our puppy is 9 months old and 60lbs of pure muscle. When he walks my wife, it's always fun to watch. Every now and then, we'll go to the park where my 6yo wants to be walked by him. She gets pulled around like a rag doll.

I say they get walked by him cause he leads, they follow. Being he's so muscular and big at a small age, they have to use what one could deem excessive force. For him, it's getting his attention.

good point.