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Old 07-12-2007, 06:05 PM   #1
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painful & PANKY thanks for your help!
See! This is what I like about the Adult Industry, everyone is polite to you, there are very little cocky pricks out there! Everyone is trying to help eachother!

1. Do you guys got any example of what a GOOD FREE SITE is compared to what a BAD FREE SITE is? & Let me see if I go it, lets say I go on a site, buy there contact, 20-30 pictures, upload it on my 'free site' (Which is obvioullsy paid for, but.. -- ye). And users who go to my free site, and activate there account through my site, I will get a certain % of the money? How does it work though? like.. Links wise? Lets say I am promoting milfhunter, and my website is ilikemilfsalot.com, and on that site I got the milfhunter ads, so wouldn't it go to milfhunter.com right away when the ad is clicked? so how would they know that they got THAT sale from MY site?

2. But what is your suggestion? First start with free sites for about a year or what not? Get to know the industry a little bit, the right key terms, how the money is spread, which company is good, which company is not & then start on your own stuff?

3. And lets say you want to do your own thing ,and you want to hire girls... Where do you get them? And what are the prices? Like Ive seen a lot of people here are from Montreal, and I am from Toronto (I was actually in MTL like... 5 days ago?) & for every time you shoot a video you have to get her ID, name, last name, etc, etc. And obviouslly you have to make sure that she is clean.. right? And so as he... So do you have to do an STD CHECK every time they are about to have sex?


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Old 07-12-2007, 09:33 PM   #2
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3. And lets say you want to do your own thing ,and you want to hire girls... Where do you get them? And what are the prices? Like Ive seen a lot of people here are from Montreal, and I am from Toronto (I was actually in MTL like... 5 days ago?) & for every time you shoot a video you have to get her ID, name, last name, etc, etc. And obviouslly you have to make sure that she is clean.. right? And so as he... So do you have to do an STD CHECK every time they are about to have sex?


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I don't think you need to get the same girls ID every time, she isn't getting any younger, but you may want to get a contract with her every time so she can't sue you later for something. Same for guys, the guys can be little crying bitches too. Do some research on this stuff, there is a lot of info on legal issues for adult sites.

www.adultweblaw.com
http://www.adultchamber.com/members/2257.htm
http://freespeechcoalition.com/

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Old 07-12-2007, 10:13 PM   #3
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Oooo, thanks a lot! =]

What about like prices & stuff?

Im new at this but...
Cant you go to like Strip Joints? Rub'N'Tug? Stuff like that?
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actually the feeds I have are for paysites NOT free sites - I think painful was thinking of our feeds that he uses on his paysites.

Panky has pretty much said most of what I could regarding free sites - and in your last questioning, you asked another 3 questions. I wont get into what I feel are the best free sites since honestly- there are way too many out there.. but I can help you with the last two.

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2. But what is your suggestion? First start with free sites for about a year or what not? Get to know the industry a little bit, the right key terms, how the money is spread, which company is good, which company is not & then start on your own stuff?

there are some who have the time to start a few free sites to learn basic programming skills and networking, but soon become disillusioned because honestly there are so many damn free sites out there that you get lost. Not too mention that no one has brought up copyright infringements which you are going to have to watch for. large companies that we all trusted are suddenly being sued by the original content producers simply because their pictures/movies were never allowed to be used on free sites to begin with, they just did it on their own.

http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=276855

btw - falcon won their lawsuit and you can see now that pornkings is owned by tucker who owns falcon.

try doing free sites if you wish, but if you can start a paysite then you have the ability to create your own content and make some serious coin faster than if you went the free site route

3. And lets say you want to do your own thing ,and you want to hire girls... Where do you get them? And what are the prices? Like Ive seen a lot of people here are from Montreal, and I am from Toronto (I was actually in MTL like... 5 days ago?) & for every time you shoot a video you have to get her ID, name, last name, etc, etc. And obviouslly you have to make sure that she is clean.. right? And so as he... So do you have to do an STD CHECK every time they are about to have sex?

oh god.. this is such a huge question and varied depending on location. best use a modelling agency and NOT strippers etc. putting ad's in papers in generally the best source but do not be exclusive to girls only since many papers dont want you to give the impression that you are biased.

and YES YES YES - always have all std's checked and presented at the time of the shoot. also make sure that you video tape them holding their ID up so that they can say on camera that they are not under any influence and agree to nudity etc. many times models can be pricks and come back saying they were unaware... it helps you in this case
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:11 PM   #5
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What is a good site to look at models? (Toronto-area wise?)

Ye, making my own contant is defentlly better.
But then again... It costs like... 40x more then a free site.
For free site you pay for... Hosting, Server, Gallery = 30/40$ PER SITE
Here you have to pay for Hosting + Server + COUNTLESS bandwidth + Models, ye... Lol. It defently adds up!

Cant you ask an investor? I know this might sound kinda dumb, but cant you ask an investor to give you money? And then you'll pay them back w/ a certain %?
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What is a good site to look at models? (Toronto-area wise?)

Ye, making my own contant is defentlly better.
But then again... It costs like... 40x more then a free site.
For free site you pay for... Hosting, Server, Gallery = 30/40$ PER SITE
Here you have to pay for Hosting + Server + COUNTLESS bandwidth + Models, ye... Lol. It defently adds up!

Cant you ask an investor? I know this might sound kinda dumb, but cant you ask an investor to give you money? And then you'll pay them back w/ a certain %?
Interesting point ... Well look for and if you find some let us know

Was nice to read your topic as i'm newbie as well and found great answers here .

But I've decided to start doing it the hard way ... free sites and later when I'll have money and know-how I'll start paysites ...
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What is a good site to look at models? (Toronto-area wise?)

Ye, making my own contant is defentlly better.
But then again... It costs like... 40x more then a free site.
For free site you pay for... Hosting, Server, Gallery = 30/40$ PER SITE
Here you have to pay for Hosting + Server + COUNTLESS bandwidth + Models, ye... Lol. It defently adds up!

Cant you ask an investor? I know this might sound kinda dumb, but cant you ask an investor to give you money? And then you'll pay them back w/ a certain %?

I'd stay away from investors. In the event that maybe your site isn't going as planned, is it worth getting stabbed or shot or broken bones? Banks probably won't lend to you and Jimmy two toes on the corner will own you for the rest of your life. Just save up some capital and do it right, and on your own.
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What is a good site to look at models? (Toronto-area wise?)

Ye, making my own contant is defentlly better.
But then again... It costs like... 40x more then a free site.
For free site you pay for... Hosting, Server, Gallery = 30/40$ PER SITE
Here you have to pay for Hosting + Server + COUNTLESS bandwidth + Models, ye... Lol. It defently adds up!

Cant you ask an investor? I know this might sound kinda dumb, but cant you ask an investor to give you money? And then you'll pay them back w/ a certain %?

alright, here is one example thats good http://www.onemodelplace.com once done that I suggest you place ad's in back end newspapers like NOW in toronto. dont just ask for girls because they dont like you singling out one sex over another.

investors in canada are going to want over 80% of your company and have more control than what your asking for. american's are generally more open with their pockets - plus - canadian investors are not going to just let you walk away from anything worthwhile, they will demand a huge buyout - and remember, they also have money to do this themselves.

best to try and do it as much by yourself as possible, unless - you find someone prepared to put money in and leave you alone to succeed and all you do is give him reports - send him a girl for the night every now and then to keep him happy

hit me up on icq since I am close to you in brantford - I may have a few girls here that you can talk too
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See! This is what I like about the Adult Industry, everyone is polite to you, there are very little cocky pricks out there!
That is not always true, the industry has it's share of assholes too just like any other industry out there, but yes for the most part many people who have knowledge and experience are willing to help. You just need to learn how to differentiate between those you should and should not take advice from. I can honestly say that Panky is definitely someone you can really learn a lot from. She is one of the honest and helpful webmasters who would never steer you in the wrong direction and has lots of great advice.

Anyhow, good luck with everything and welcome to the board!!
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