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				Your favourite war movies?
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
		I enjoy a good war movie.  What are some of your favourites? 
Here are a few of my top ones: 
 
Apocalypse Now 
All Quiet on the Western Front (1930) 
Saving Private Ryan 
Schindler's List 
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		All great films, also noteworthy: 
  
Platoon 
Clear & Present Danger 
Spy Game 
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		Full Metal Jacket 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		Thin Red Line. 
 
It´s about war, but its done in a special way, and I would say its a very poetic movie aswell. think I watched it for 5th or 6th time a couple of days ago. 
 
Platoon is a golden oldie aswell. Im in me PRE morning coffee state, so cant remember any else.  ;-) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		Saving Private Ryan 
Platoon 
We were Soldiers 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		Apocalypse Now 
Schindlers list  
Platoon 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		I feel ashamed to say I haven't seen more then half of these movies that you guys have listed..  I should really take a day to watch Saving private Ryan. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		The Thin Red Line is indeed a good one. 
 
I think I prefer a war movie that captures the spirit of the soldier, whether it's good or bad.  (it's usually bad) 
 
Another example of one of my favourites is The Deer Hunter. 
Not really about the war itself, but more about how the war affected a group of friends.  I still find that movie incredibly powerful. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		Full Metal Jacket is definitely my favorite. Then Clear and Present Danger, followed by Platoon.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		Across the Universe - ... it's a musical based on beatles music based around the time of the Vietnam war.  It's not a war movie as the ones previously listed, however, the storyline is based on the war. 
 
As far as an outright war movie, I'd go with Saving Private Ryan and Platoon..also The hunt for Red October was awesome(Cold War). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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				Across the Universe - ... it's a musical based on beatles music based around the time of the Vietnam war.  It's not a war movie as the ones previously listed, however, the storyline is based on the war. 
 
As far as an outright war movie, I'd go with Saving Private Ryan and Platoon..also The hunt for Red October was awesome(Cold War). 
			
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 Across the Universe is a musical with the Vietnam war in the background for half the movie.  It's not a war movie at all.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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				Across the Universe - ... it's a musical based on beatles music based around the time of the Vietnam war.  It's not a war movie as the ones previously listed, however, the storyline is based on the war. 
 
As far as an outright war movie, I'd go with Saving Private Ryan and Platoon..also The hunt for Red October was awesome(Cold War). 
			
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 Sorry buddy but I don't think Across the Universe as anything to do with war movies. 
 
But with that said it's probably the best movie I seen in 2007.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		We Were Soldiers 
Full Metal Jacket- brings up fond memories of USMC boot camp
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		i think we were soldiers and saving private ryan are my favs. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		Platoon 
Apocalipse Now ( Redux) 
Schindlers List  
Band Of Brothers ( it's a TV show Still it's fucking AWSOME)  
Saving Private Ryan ( for the first 45 Min this one is a Dandy ) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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 Not really a movie but the best depiction of WWII I've seen bar none.
 
Less well known (and not without its faults), but an excellent film nonetheless, is Sam Peckinpah's  Cross of Iron.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		Platoon would probably be my favourite, but I haven't seen most of the ones that have already been mentioned here.  I should do a "war movie weekend" soon! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		My war movies go back further  
1) Tora Tora Tora 
2) CrossBow (1965) 
3) The Devil's Brigade (1968) 
4) Where Eagles Dare (1969) 
5) DamBusters 
6) Midway 
7) The Man Who Never Was (1956) 
8) DasBoot 
9) Desert Fox 
10) Patton 
11) Flying Tigers 
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