To start or not.... a new TGP?

[oceania]

it could work just have to find someone you feel comfortable with to do that
or train a newbie so they do everything exactly how you want it done

[thruma]

I think TGP is dead. I've been looking into TGP2 recently and obviously it converts way better than TGP. The main thing with it is getting search engine traffic and only showing 5 thumbs so you really tease the surfer.

By the same token I thought TGP was dead about a year ago too but it seemed to jump back a little bit 5 months after I thought that and I was making some sales again.

I pretty convinced though that in good economic times TGP was pretty thin profit-wise but in this new tougher economy forget it. As long as there's so much for free who wants to buy it. People want to use their little extra spending money on booze instead. If they couldn't get all the porn they want free then yeah they would buy that too but... yada yada as the free porn story goes :|

I'd love to hear some comments about linklists and if they still do well. They always had better SE traffic than TGP's did.

[the New Shemp]

Originally Posted by thruma

I think TGP is dead. I've been looking into TGP2 recently and obviously it converts way better than TGP. The main thing with it is getting search engine traffic and only showing 5 thumbs so you really tease the surfer.

By the same token I thought TGP was dead about a year ago too but it seemed to jump back a little bit 5 months after I thought that and I was making some sales again.

I pretty convinced though that in good economic times TGP was pretty thin profit-wise but in this new tougher economy forget it. As long as there's so much for free who wants to buy it. People want to use their little extra spending money on booze instead. If they couldn't get all the porn they want free then yeah they would buy that too but... yada yada as the free porn story goes :|

I'd love to hear some comments about linklists and if they still do well. They always had better SE traffic than TGP's did.

what a pile of crap ...

[thruma]

Originally Posted by the New Shemp

what a pile of crap ...

Shemp you're well respected enough that I'm not going to argue with you.

I can see too how your perspective is going to be much different as a long time tgp owner who has been making money from it for a long time.

My perspective though is I had a tgp that never made much money at all only to get to the point of making no money at all in recent times.

Also I'm a TGP gallery submitter who used to make loads of money and has seen tgp ratios get bigger and bigger as time goes on. Dec 2008 was my first month ever of making 0 sales from TGP traffic.

So I'm only one person yes but I have seen many others saying the same things.

[the New Shemp]

Originally Posted by thruma

Shemp you're well respected enough that I'm not going to argue with you.

I can see too how your perspective is going to be much different as a long time tgp owner who has been making money from it for a long time.

My perspective though is I had a tgp that never made much money at all only to get to the point of making no money at all in recent times.

Also I'm a TGP gallery submitter who used to make loads of money and has seen tgp ratios get bigger and bigger as time goes on. Dec 2008 was my first month ever of making 0 sales from TGP traffic.

So I'm only one person yes but I have seen many others saying the same things.

sorry, for the abrupt comment last nite...however every time i hear how good TGP2 was, i wanna throw up...it was started by a bunch of losers on gfy that coiuldnt make a dime with regular tgps...the original group was led by wolfshade, a well known dialer cheater and crook that resurfaced a few years ago on Netpond under a different user name and bilked a bunch more people out of their hard earned cash...

TGP2 never took off because it never had any traffic and it never made the users and real money...all the time the TGP2 group were voraciously pushing the wonderful concept of TGP2 to the masses, they were still submitting regular TGP galleries to the big TGP sites (the very sites that they wanted to put out of business) and sneaking recip links back to their crappy TGP2 sites...

Only the surfer decides what will work on the internet...you cant force a fad or make a surfer like a concept...the surfer will make or break you and the surfers broke the TGP2 concept because it sucked bigtime, from the surfers point of view...

[Panky]

Originally Posted by the New Shemp

sorry, for the abrupt comment last nite...however every time i hear how good TGP2 was, i wanna throw up...it was started by a bunch of losers on gfy that coiuldnt make a dime with regular tgps...the original group was led by wolfshade, a well known dialer cheater and crook that resurfaced a few years ago on Netpond under a different user name and bilked a bunch more people out of their hard earned cash...

TGP2 never took off because it never had any traffic and it never made the users and real money...all the time the TGP2 group were voraciously pushing the wonderful concept of TGP2 to the masses, they were still submitting regular TGP galleries to the big TGP sites (the very sites that they wanted to put out of business) and sneaking recip links back to their crappy TGP2 sites...

Only the surfer decides what will work on the internet...you cant force a fad or make a surfer like a concept...the surfer will make or break you and the surfers broke the TGP2 concept because it sucked bigtime, from the surfers point of view...

I would so love for you to be a guest on anasporn weekly show on Netpond. She's a die hard TGP2'er.

[thruma]

Shemp no need to say sorry. I always enjoy reading your abrupt comments.
This is the first time one was directed at me though. lol All is good.

By the time I got into the biz TGP2 had already died. So I definitely love hearing the history from guys like you who were there from the start.

I used to scoff at TGP2 as well but I guess I'm just looking for something new out of frustration with TGP and the ever raising ratios I'm seeing. When I declared that TGP was dead there was indeed a lot of frustration behind that statement.

I've been looking into this new movement of TGP2 and what I'm reading is that they have SE traffic and they convert with much lower ratios than TGP. Even with that I'm still looking at it with a critical eye. I even posted in a thread somewhere else that yeah TGP2 could work as long as the surfer doesn't already know about TGP and freesites.

I know anasporn was talking about them at least a year ago and I didn't listen to her but she's still doing them after a year so it may worth a look.

I second Panky, I'd love to hear you on Anas show and possibly get some deeper history lessons about this biz we're in.

I know there is an ebb and flow to TGP sales so I appreciate your wise words, maybe I'll take a long critical look at how I'm doing my TGP galleries. I still can't help thinking though that TGP is dying because theres no way it is as good as it used to be.

Originally Posted by the New Shemp

sorry, for the abrupt comment last nite...however every time i hear how good TGP2 was, i wanna throw up...it was started by a bunch of losers on gfy that coiuldnt make a dime with regular tgps...the original group was led by wolfshade, a well known dialer cheater and crook that resurfaced a few years ago on Netpond under a different user name and bilked a bunch more people out of their hard earned cash...

TGP2 never took off because it never had any traffic and it never made the users and real money...all the time the TGP2 group were voraciously pushing the wonderful concept of TGP2 to the masses, they were still submitting regular TGP galleries to the big TGP sites (the very sites that they wanted to put out of business) and sneaking recip links back to their crappy TGP2 sites...

Only the surfer decides what will work on the internet...you cant force a fad or make a surfer like a concept...the surfer will make or break you and the surfers broke the TGP2 concept because it sucked bigtime, from the surfers point of view...